Legislature(2005 - 2006)BUTROVICH 205

03/24/2005 08:30 AM Senate JUDICIARY


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ SJR 12 URGE CONFIRM US SUPREME COURT NOMINEES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSJR 12(JUD) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
= SB 118 ONLINE ENTICEMENT OF MINOR
Moved CSSB 118(JUD) Out of Committee
= SB 119 BAN ONLINE DIST. OF PORNOGRAPHY TO MINORS
Moved CSSB 119(JUD) Out of Committee
        SB 119-BAN ONLINE DIST. OF PORNOGRAPHY TO MINORS                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:16:57 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR SEEKINS announced SB 119 to be up for consideration.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH moved to adopt Amendment 1.                                                                                      
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                       A M E N D M E N T                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
OFFERED IN THE SENATE                         BY SENATOR FRENCH                                                                 
     TO:  SB 119                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, line 6, following "person":                                                                                             
     Insert ", being 18 years of age or older,"                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, line 7:                                                                                                                 
     Delete "(1)"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS objected for the purpose of an explanation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  answered it was  in response to  a recommendation                                                               
by the Department of Law, that  being the crime should be focused                                                               
on adults.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:18:39 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. ANNE  CARPENETI, criminal division  Department of  Law (DOL),                                                               
affirmed she had no objections to Amendment 1.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT pointed  out SB 119 and SB 118  are similar in                                                               
nature and asked  if the committee should  consider mirroring the                                                               
language by adding  the word "knowingly" on Page 1,  line 6 after                                                               
the word "person". The bills should use the same terminology.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH agreed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS asked  Ms. Carpeneti if SB 119 addresses  a 17 year                                                               
old who is distributing electronic pornography.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  advised SB 119  does not address anyone  under the                                                               
age of 18.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:21:26 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR THERRIAULT  commented at a  certain age one  would expect                                                               
the average  person to be  able to distinguish between  right and                                                               
wrong.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH said the purpose of  SB 118 is to keep middle aged                                                               
predators away from impressionable young children.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:23:52 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  SEEKINS   removed  his  objections.  Hearing   no  further                                                               
objections, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:24:45 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH moved Amendment 2.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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                       A M E N D M E N T                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
OFFERED IN THE SENATE                         BY SENATOR FRENCH                                                                 
     TO:  SB 119                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, lines 7 - 8:                                                                                                            
     Delete    "or   other    device   capable    of   electronic                                                               
communication"                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH explained  the amendment  addressed the  previous                                                               
committee  concerns regarding  prosecuting mainline  transmitters                                                               
of pornography (HBO, MSN, Yahoo).                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:26:02 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  SEEKINS  removed  his objection  and  hearing  no  further                                                               
objection, Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT moved Amendment 3.                                                                                           
     Page 1, line 7; after the (1) insert the word "knowingly".                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Hearing no objection, the committee adopted Amendment 3.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:27:00 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GUESS mentioned  SB 118 might allow for  someone to claim                                                               
they didn't believe the recipient was less than 16 years of age.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS  commented using the  word "knowingly"  would cover                                                               
it.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GUESS  countered  a  person  could  dispute  the  charge                                                               
because of unclear  language. She proposed Amendment  4. Amend SB
119 to be in conjunction with SB 118.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH admitted SB 118 was better drafted than SB 119.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:29:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS clarified they could  use the language from SB 118,                                                               
Page 1,  lines 7-10 and  insert that  same language into  SB 119,                                                               
Page 1, line 7.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH agreed  and read the proposed verbiage  on Page 1,                                                               
line 7:                                                                                                                         
      knowingly distributes by computer any material that                                                                       
      depicts an act described in AS 11.41.455 (a)(1)-(7)                                                                       
     and                                                                                                                        
          (1) the other person is a child under 16 years                                                                        
               of age; or                                                                                                       
          (2) the person believes that the other person is                                                                      
               a child under 16 years of age.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:32:05 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR SEEKINS recognized no further discussion and Amendment 4                                                                  
was adopted. He asked Ms. Carpeneti if SB 119 meets with DOL                                                                    
approval.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI responded the DOL supports SB 119.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:32:51 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GUESS moved CSSB 119(JUD) from committee with individual                                                                
recommendations and attached fiscal notes. There being no                                                                       
objection, the motion carried.                                                                                                  

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